Welcome to Ke'Faro Cast everybody Frank here with Aaron Snyder in a very special

Ginger guest

Our lead designer Eric Bender what's going on Eric? What is up? I guess you would be the original ginger because

You were here before we met Alex, which is the big ginger

So you would be you're the OGG. Yeah, yeah OGG

Yep, I've been here for it's gonna be seven years and

Seven years next April feels like two decades. Yeah

Yeah, so one of the reasons we wanted to get Bender on here is

He plays a pretty vital role at Ke'Faro

And here they didn't get well, you don't ever know when I mentioned your name because you don't pay attention to this shit

But you do get a lot of love but it's just so you everybody kind of understands

The parts that Bender plays and the process here what he does and kind of what he's designed

Sometimes I got to correct people because they'll think I've done something that I definitely have not like the Ontario

There's a good example

I think at the very end you showed me that and I said looks good just do it don't bug me about it

And that was kind of the end of it. Yeah, that's kind of one of my favorite things to do is go rogue

sometimes it gets me in trouble and I'll just

I'll bring something to you. That's at least probably what 75% of the way there or sometimes a little bit more like

Today you came in and there was a bunch of shit on your your desk and your

Shares like a 90% pass rate and the 10% may still get a go so that was a good one. Yeah, but

Bender

So your Bender has a lot of jobs here his main job

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