We've got James ss is it it is yes hello hello James how are you doing very

well nice to see you thanks for having me on it you're you're very very welcome

so tell me what are we going to be talking about today because I saw you on

trigonometry and your case is pretty bonkers do you want us should we just go

right into it yeah yeah let's let's talk about the case and then we can talk

about the issues surrounding us yeah in a nutshell I was I was expelled from

my master's degree in psychotherapy after I raised concerns about the

medicalization of children with gender dysphoria yeah that is the

nutshell isn't it okay and what I mean what did you actually do and say who

were you raising the issues to well I've been volunteering as a children's

counsellor as a charitable child line in the UK and I was coming across more

and more children saying they're attracting the wrong bodies I was concerned by

this and I thought I need to research into it and I became shocked with what I

was seeing these medical pathways we were putting children down so I I started

speaking out I wrote some articles like wrote an article actually for

Quilesce and funnily enough and I also started petitioned the UK government

saying to them please safeguard therapy for children don't just push the

medical pathway and that seemed to be enough to get me kicked off the course

well how did that happen then so you're what sent off an email and then the next

thing you knew what what had happened yeah so I got an email from the deputy chief

executive officer on a Wednesday this is May of last year saying there had been

some complaints about what I've been saying and they asked if I'd come in for

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