KHC 160 - Benji Backer

Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective

Cameron Hanes

Health & Fitness, Sports

4.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

Benji Backer - Founder of the American Conservation Coalition, the largest right-of-center environmental organization in the country. In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, Cam sits down with Benji Backer to discuss politics, leadership, the environment, and finding common ground in a divided world. From death threats and conspiracy theories to public land sell-offs, affordable housing, screen time’s impact on mental health, and the future of American conservation, this is one of the most honest and thoughtful political discussions you’ll hear this year. Whether you’re left, right, or somewhere in between, this conversation proves that love for nature and clean communities can unite us all. Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Follow Benji: https://www.instagram.com/benjibacker/ Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Getting into Politics, Death Threats, and a Love for the Environment 00:09:06 – The Government's Approach to Leadership & Their Focus on Social Media 00:15:37 – Senate Caucuses, Conspiracy Theories, and Corruption in the Government 00:24:26 – Van Jones, the Best Advice Benji Has Gotten, and the Public Land Sell Offs 00:31:54 – Public Land Sales, Affordable Housing, and the Importance of Connection to Nature 00:46:16 – Screen Time, Depression, and Rewarding Leaders with an Environmental Plan 00:50:34 – Discussions with People Outside Your Circle 00:58:26 – Aaron Rodgers: Respect for Someone That’s Always Evolving 01:02:53 – United by Nature, Trump on Public Lands Stance, and The Big Beautiful Bill 01:12:40 – Improving the Health and Cleanliness of our Communities 01:16:51 – Mineral and Energy Extraction, Mining, and Climate Change 01:25:35 – Environmentalism and Climate Change & Finding Truth in the Movement 01:30:27 – Earning Trust While Building a Movement 01:34:36 – Making a Difference Without Pushing an Agenda 01:37:51 – Final Thoughts

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1:40.3	Every step I take I move my truth.
1:42.4	Every time they tell me stop I use.
1:44.1	Every comment hate that makes my feel gather up my energy and boom. I had them talking saying the way that I move it's so reckless. That is a part of my mind I've been blessed with. Giving my blood so I am relentless. All right. This is a Keep Hammering Collective with Benji Backer. What's up? That's a good name. It is. Thanks mom and dad. Yeah, yeah, no. So normally kids hate their name, but you got a good one. I got Benjamin first. Yeah. And then I was like, Ben's too basic. Got to go with Benji. And then everyone's like, oh, can't wait until you change that when you become an adult. adult I'm like, I'm not changing it. So I don't know. I don't know why you guys have plans for me. But yeah, no. It's going to be Benji till the day I die. Okay. Well, it's, it's good to have you here, Benji. Great to be here. Yeah, I've been, yeah, I've been seeing what you've been up to out there. Right now, the public lands are in the news.
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