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Good Guy / Bad Guy

Khamzat vs Pereira…WTF? + Don’t call it a Takedown!

Good Guy / Bad Guy

ESPN Radio

Sports

4.42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Good Guy / Bad Guy…Could we see a brawl between the two scariest dudes in the UFC? If you ask Khamzat Chimaev the answer is yes! Find out what the guys think about Khamzat wanting to fight the Light Heavyweight Champ Alex Pereira at 205lbs. Then, call it being salty or call it facts…but according to Cory Sandhagen don’t call it a takedown! Sandhagen is discrediting Merab Dvalishvili’s 20 takedowns in their recent fight for the Bantamweight strap but do DC & Chael agree? Plus, if a fighter misses weight, they should take half their pay and deduct a point! It’s a hot take from one of the guys. But which one? And, we discuss the high stakes main event in Vancouver, Canada when Reiner de Ridder takes on Brenden Allen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You know, so let's get into this, right?

0:03.0

I'm gonna get in trouble for this

0:04.0

because I always get in trouble for this.

0:06.0

What's happening, guys?

0:15.0

Welcome to another episode of Good Guy, Bad Guy.

0:17.0

I'm Chale. He's Daniel. Partner, I got to tell you look very cozy this morning.

0:21.6

I like this sweater. I'm getting cold out here in Oregon, man. The weather's dropping.

0:25.4

Cail, it's cold in California, bro. Like my daughter is now wearing sweaters to school.

0:31.3

It's unbelievable that it went from last week where it was warm. It was nice. It was in the 70s.

0:37.2

So now in the morning, JLP, we are

0:39.2

45, 50 degrees in the morning, it is freezing cold.

0:44.9

But I got to be honest, that is kind of why I like Northern California.

0:48.0

I love being able to feel that weather change.

0:51.6

In Southern California, it's like never, never cold.

0:56.8

Oregon's nice, kind of rainy a little bit.

1:00.5

Everything has a great seasonal change, but I like mild season changes.

1:04.9

Not like Atlantic City where it's like freezing cold sometimes.

1:09.3

Yes, I understand.

1:10.3

The one good news, by the way, when the sun's not out at 6 o'clock and when the sun is done being out by 6 p.m., that means it's wrestling season. It's wrestling season, baby. Let's go, baby. Hey, guys, for the record, Chale and I just did that again. We're like on repeat because my camera's doing some weird stuff this morning. But hey, full transparency and good guy, bad guy, we don't lie to you. We do not lie to you. Hey, one guy that's not lying, Teoto, is Hamzaa Chama. Hamzat Chimaya wants to fight Alex Panada, but he wants to fight him for the light heavyweight championship. What do you make it at? Okay, this isn't new. By the way, I mean, I got to tell you, like, Chameyev has had Pierre's name in his mouth for a little while. You and I got to sit down and speak with Dana the night before Uncle I versus Pierre Part 2. Pierre was given some hints that he wanted to go to heavyweight. We just asked Dana about that. Hey, Dana, historically, you're not a big fan of guys leaving their weight class, particularly when they're the champion. But this year alone, you've allowed Ilya to do it and Islam to do it. And there's some rumblings that Alex would like to do it. Dana made a point. He just said, it's hard to tell some guys know when they've cleaned out the division. When they've done everything they set out to do, it's hard to make them do it over again. I just don't know that

2:22.2

Chamiyev is in that spot right now. You know, don't forget a lot of Chamiyev's undefeated

2:26.1

UFC record took place at 170 pounds. He's kind of new to 185. When I go look at those

2:31.7

top guys at 185, they haven't had their opportunity yet. So I don't think that Chameh is going to leave anytime soon. I think he's more just sharing with us. He's got goals. And when you have a guy that's a champion of the world, by the way, he needs to have a new goal. And if that's his dream and his drive and that's what keeps him going, I don't think we should get in Chameh's way. I'm not ready to predict that that match is going to happen, but I like the theme.

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