Welcome to KaffiruCast everyone. I am running solo and I have my good friend Kevin Estella on the other line with field craft survival what's cracking in Utah dude everything is cracking here we are constantly constantly growing reaching out doing a million things like celebrity week we had you here earlier this week and we got a lot of interesting people walk through the course.

Yeah, you had Eastman's there yesterday right yeah yeah I conveyed that message to them by the way the minute they walked in both the Ike and Scott so uh they're used to that I'm sure that they laugh oh yeah they're like oh yeah you've been talking to Snyder.

Yeah I talked to why don't talk to Ike as much as Scott but those guys are cool.

But yeah I recently flew out to Utah and went and met with Black Rifle Coffee as well as field craft survival and you know when I met with with field craft I really just came to say hang out with you Kevin and say hi to to Mike and that kind of I don't even I say it snowballed down a giant mountain into a big wormhole of potential partnerships and classes and land now of course is a big one.

And so we really don't have it you know blue printed exactly but you want to talk a little bit about some of the things we're going over.

Oh yeah so like you said you came out here and you know first off trying to get a hold of my glove is tricky because the guy is a machine when it comes to working and he's constantly filming videos and whatnot so so I felt bad because you were hanging out in the office but that kind of gave us time for us just to spit ball some ideas and you got a chance to meet.

The other Kevin here I feel crack Kevin Owens Irish Kevin and then you know we just started talking about different things like fact packs and gear and mentioned how there was a lot of interest when you posted about land navigation and I said I would do land navigation too and I showed kind of our video content that we have on the locals page you're like oh my god next you know Kevin Owens is like let's we'll do it for you.

But right now we're planning all sorts of different training content from land navigation to wilderness survival to give a class that I started called modern predator which is all about like unconventional ways of catching animals but it's essentially poaching but in a survival situation.

Yeah exactly right right and then we're working on this class which is called breakout which will be a very intensive like five day class here in Utah where we're going to have people in a scenario and we're going to stress them physically stress them with time stress them with cold like anything you can possibly imagine that it does is stress we're bringing it on so we're excited about that one but yeah we were just sitting around and next to you.

We met up on a second day and we've decided that we're going to do some joint ventures here collaborations where I might be traveling out to Colorado you might be coming out here to Utah especially with the hunting aspect and the archery aspect and we're just going to come out some really awesome content and forward.

Yeah and I think kind of how this happened was I was going to initially do the land app courses with Mike her which will still be involved in it obviously but when the overwhelming response came through I'm like oh man this is this is a lot in in Kevin Owen was like well dude I've already got stuff done online and I'm like well I'll just start shovel him to you guys because you know the crawl walk run right online learn the basics and then.

That kind of transformed you guys are getting in some of the archery stuff and obviously on the field craft side or bush craft side I'm pretty first in that and I'm like well I'll just funnel people to you guys and when it's applicable and you have a class if I can help out you know whether it be archery or breaking down animals or whatever that's more my specialty and so the synergy there was really good because you guys are qualified professionals at an extremely high level.

I'm not going to be able to do that at a lot of different things that is easier for me to I hate to say pawn off but filter people your way because you guys already offer a lot of this stuff and your your geared for it where you know I would have to take a lot of time to do this and I'll probably still teach classes here locally it's just you guys may be involved in those but the big classes that will be focused towards you guys there in heaver city in Utah right right and you know one thing that was that was a lot of fun.

You know one thing that was very apparent in that room was that we're all on the same page you know and many different levels right in terms of our approach to the great outdoors in terms of just our personalities like like you guys a bunch of guys in the room that are all very skilled in what we do but we're not stepping on each other like we're trying to elevate each other so so that was something that is very difficult to do in the corporate world as much as I don't want to say I'm working for corporate America work for a company like this because we're really not we're just a bunch of people.

We're just a bunch of guys have fun and sharing knowledge really like man this feels just right in getting in line with tomorrow.

It was a good meeting because one of the things I made jokes about was normally if I walk into a room I feel like I'm an alpha or one of them.

I didn't have that feeling in that room I kind of felt like a bitch.

Chad said my buddy Chad was like oh my my purse was full of tampons he's like yeah I definitely he's like those guys are amazing and the cool thing was is no egos there right I'm like hey you guys are better at this and I am you know you take this and if you guys need me to teach our

your lessons hey that's my thing and you guys like oh yeah perfect so great synergy in that meeting yeah 100% so kind of how I see this and not saying this is how it's going to all roll out but you are very versed in what I call you

you know bushcraft but but a lot of the more primitive bushcraft meaning traps snares celestial navigation things of that nature as well as many other things Kevin Owen really good at land nav as well as many other things meaning

current up to date land manual and nav and GPS is so the classes that you guys are going to teach are from you know look the crawl to run phases manual and nav and then integrating your GPS with that and then you Kevin Estella you

teach more of the primitive navigation is that correct right that's how we see it rolling out Kevin start off doing map and compass in land navigation one where he's showing how to use the map use the compass use the map and the compass together he's showing how to use

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