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What's up, everybody? Welcome into Tom Caron's Patriots Talk podcast.

Have one of my favorite people in football with us today.

It's Kevin Clark from ESPN and Omaha Productions.

One of the smartest people around, in my estimation, and he spent a lot of time in his

career, whether it be at the Ringer, Wall Street Journal, or now at ESPN,

really going deep on the Patriots and what has made them great through the years.

So he's got a great perspective on what's going on right now with the Patriots.

Of course, we'll have the Senator Phil Perry alongside, too.

Let's get it.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to bring in one of my favorite people in all

of football.

It's Kevin Clark from Omaha Productions and ESPN.

He has a show called This is Football, and he just spoke to Devante Smith.

But let's get to Kevin.

Kev, how are you?

What's going on, man? Just ended the Zoom with with devante smith i was trying to fix my hair of the entire episode

it wasn't happening for me i need a haircut um but now i i'm amongst friends so i don't feel the need to

fix my hair at this entire episode you know the senator phil, right? Of course I know Phil Perry. I'm so happy he's on the call.

We're going to share some hair tips a little bit later because I'm having a hard time too,

but I think we can work this out together, Kevin.

I think we got to do.

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