Pushkin.

This is Don Quix.

This is Don easy. I'm San Francisco, so welcome to the show. Oh, uh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Hey everyone. Today I am joined by musician artist filmmaker Kevin Abstract. He's a leading

member of the group Brock Hampton, a self-described hip-hop boy band.

They have a new record out called Roadrunner New Light New Machine,

which you can find wherever you listen to your music.

But before we get into the episode,

I want to take a moment with yesterday's news.

As you saw, Derek Chauvin was charged for the murder of George Floyd

he was found guilty on all three counts and

will hopefully be spending the rest of his years in prison.

I watched the verdict on television, perhaps like many of you.

As the guilty charges came in and the judge confirmed the conviction with each juror. I felt anxious

and tense. Even after Chauvin was carded away, I felt very little relief and maybe that's because there's no real

relief to be had here and there never was supposed to be. What happened to George Floyd on May 25th of 2020 is not

something we get to move past. Those nine minutes and 29 seconds will forever live on through you and I both. But you don't

get to move past tragedy. You move with it. Each day, one foot in front of the other, you learn to live with it.

Despite some of the proclamations you may have heard yesterday, George Floyd did not sacrifice his life for justice. He did not

offer himself as tribute for us, for the cause. This is something I think white people like to say, and it is maybe well

intentioned, but it's also wrong-headed. George Floyd had no choice in the matter. He did not decide to become a symbol for a movement

or a name yelled in the streets during protests. Yesterday, the mayor of Minneapolis Jacob Frey said,

George Floyd came to Minneapolis to better his life,

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