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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

Kerry Katona: I Didn’t Know Brian Cheated Before Our Wedding! THIS Is The Truth About Heidi & Liz’s Atomic Kitten Fights

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Relationships, Society & Culture, Leisure

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 112 minutes

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Summary

Kerry Katona opens up like never before revealing the truth behind her rise to fame with Atomic Kitten, the challenges of her turbulent childhood, and the personal struggles that shaped her journey. From knowing she was destined for fame at just five years old, to navigating the highs and lows of public life, Kerry shares the story of what really happened behind the headlines. In the emotional first part of this two-part conversation, Kerry discusses her complicated relationship with her mother and how she navigated fame and tabloid scrutiny. She opens up about her relationship with Brian McFadden, the public breakdown of their marriage, how she turned to drugs to deal with the heartbreak. Kerry shares: ◽ Growing up as the product of an affair and forced to choose between parents ◽ The trauma of her early years and trying to buy her mum’s love ◽ How Atomic Kitten was formed and what went on behind closed doors ◽ The real reason she left Atomic Kitten  ◽ How she met Brian McFadden and discovered his infidelity ◽ The emotional toll of fame and her battle with substance use Kerry Katona, We Need to Talk. See you next week for Part Two! (00:00) Intro (03:17) Kerry's Unique Family Situation and Childhood (08:22) Kerry's Relationship with Her 'Dad' Dave (12:48) The First Time Kerry Took Drugs (15:09) Kerry's Biological Dad (22:45) How Kerry Got Started in Modelling (36:08) Shopify Ad (37:06) Adobe Express Ad (38:10) Kerry's Journey to Atomic Kitten (41:11) Kerry's Time in the Porn Kings (45:09) The Origins of Atomic Kitten (50:50) Atomic Kitten's Rise to Fame (55:32) Tinder Ad (56:36) The Success of Atomic Kitten (58:18) Why Did the Media Focus on Kerry? (01:02:44) Kerry's Highlights of Being in Atomic Kitten (01:03:51) Kerry's Encounters with Notable Stars (01:09:00) Kerry's Lowest Moment in Atomic Kitten (01:10:30) How Kerry Met Brian Mcfadden (01:12:59) Did People in the Music Industry Like Kerry and Brian's Coupling? (01:14:42) Brian's Proposal to Kerry (01:15:59) Kerry's First Pregnancy (01:17:07) The Impact of Kerry's Leaked Photos (01:19:18) What Was Kerry's Relationship with the Press Like During Atomic Kitten and Her Marriage with Brian (01:21:03) Kerry's Choice to Leave Atomic Kitten (01:22:45) Kerry and Brian's Wedding (01:24:42) Brian's Infidelity (01:29:36) Kerry's Experience of Winning 'I'm a Celeb' (01:37:22) Why Brian and Kerry Got Divorced (01:44:39) Moving Back to Warrington After Kerry's Split with Brian (01:45:30) Going to Rehab in Arizona (01:47:23) Kerry's Diagnosis of Bipolar (01:50:53) Part 2 Teaser This episode includes some difficult conversations. If you’re impacted, we recommend the support charities below:Survivor's Trust: https://g2ul0.app.link/yh0NrvNsvTb      Refuge: https://g2ul0.app.link/td2zqEPpGTb  CALM: https://g2ul0.app.link/uULaUXcM3Nb  MIND: https://g2ul0.app.link/gbuRaxjM3Nb Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk  https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Support Kerry here:Instagram: https://g2ul0.app.link/otKjdok9cWb  TikTok: https://g2ul0.app.link/391l8Vg9cWb Kerry & Katie’s Tour: https://g2ul0.app.link/6dGc2te9cWb Mamma Mia Tour: https://g2ul0.app.link/ubKU5P88cWb  Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Adobe Express: https://ADOBE.LY/PAUL Tinder: https://tinder.com/en-GB Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

And I just had this instant fear of Dave.

0:02.5

My mom came in.

0:03.7

Days asked me to marry.

0:04.8

The next night, she came home black and blue, any other son of shotgun to her head.

0:09.9

We had to go into hiding.

0:11.4

She said, Dave's your real dad.

0:13.8

Atomic.

0:14.5

I'm a celebrity.

0:16.6

I knew from the age of five I was going to be famous.

0:20.0

I wanted to matter. The situations've been put in as a child

0:23.4

no child should ever be in

0:25.3

it got to a point it nearly kills me

0:27.2

life changed overnight I remember thinking like I was a superstar

0:31.2

everyone took the piss no one believes it I said I'm in no girl band honestly

0:34.7

I'm in number one in 19 countries you were in one of the hottest groups in the UK, and then you leave.

0:40.7

The climb to fame, Paul, was amazing.

0:42.9

Getting there, hated it.

0:44.1

Somebody posted a handwritten letter wishing me and my baby to die.

0:48.7

When you're in a girl band, it's not glamorous at all.

0:51.4

You work your f*** off.

0:53.3

You're giving everything for free.

0:55.1

Oh, we were on, not like $2.50 a week. So, anyway, we had Liz and Heidi. One of them didn't like one of the other, and one of them slapped somebody anyway. Can we talk about that? You said one of them slapped one of them? I wasn't there. Nothing do with me. You and Brian meet. I only found out after we got married

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