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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

I Was Painted As The Villain! | We're Talking TV Talent Shows

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Relationships, Society & Culture, Leisure

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

We’re Talking TV TALENT SHOWS: Two of the most iconic contestants - Cher Lloyd and Calum Scott - open up about their unforgettable auditions and what really happened after the cameras stopped rolling. ◽️ Cher takes us back to The X Factor stage at just 16 - and the backlash that nearly broke her ◽️ Calum reveals what it was like to go viral overnight after Britain’s Got Talent - and how he rebuilt himself afterwards ◽️ Both share the real truth about fame, pressure and surviving reality TV (00:00) Intro (00:33) Cher's X-Factor Audition (03:52) How Does Cher Feel She Was Portrayed on X-Factor Versus What She Was Actually Like? (06:35) What Kind of Mental Health Support Was Cher Getting on the X-Factor? (07:51) What Was Cher's Relationship with the Judges Like? (11:04) What Was Living with the Other Artists Like? (15:17) Love Better Tour Ad (16:23) Calum's Experience of His Britain's Got Talent Audition (27:16) Calum Reflects on the Impact BGT Had on His Career Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk  https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Follow Cher Here: Instagram: https://g2ul0.app.link/RajyCUByoQb  Follow Callum Here: Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/JAW7hxKlKSb   Sponsored by: Get Your Tickets to the Love Better Tour: https://bit.ly/lovebetter-YT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This week, we're talking TV talent shows.

0:03.2

Today, you'll hear from Cher Lloyd, who was just 16, when her X Factor audition went viral.

0:08.8

And Callum Scott, whose Britain's Got Talent Performance transformed his life overnight.

0:13.4

They share the highs, the lows, and what it's really like behind the cameras of reality TV.

0:19.2

So let's get into it.

0:20.1

Today, we're talking TV talent shows.

0:35.9

Talk to me about what could be one of the most epic auditions ever in X Factor history.

0:44.0

How did it happen?

0:46.7

Do you know what?

0:47.6

I used to sing that Kerry Hilsen song over and over again in my bedroom on that same karaoke machine.

0:55.3

I loved the song.

0:57.3

Like, I just, I loved it.

0:59.7

It didn't even cross my mind that people would be so surprised that a girl like me

1:04.6

would sing a song like that.

1:06.9

So, yeah, I went to that audition.

1:10.1

My mom took me on the train.

1:12.2

I remember the train was expensive, you know,

1:15.6

but she was the last of her money to buy the train ticket.

1:19.9

We went to audition and it just felt like every step of it was like, you're through you're through you're through

1:29.3

you're through you're through and it just it just it ran away it ran away and I

1:35.5

it was just shocking to see that oh wow yeah I'm finally doing it this is the moment

1:43.6

this is the moment everyone's going to know my name.

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