It's the independent. Well, I'm not shedding any tears. 93 WIBC. It is the Kindle and Casey show. I'm Rob

Gacy's out today. Oh, look who it is. He's a broadcaster. He's a provocateur. The one and only

Abdullah keeps your buzz. How are you skinny? Ah, doing well. Some a doctor this week, my

cardiologist gave me a clean bill of health and Abdullah C in six months. You look like it. So

for as many people are aware, I'm sure they listen to this radio station or follow you on social media.

You had a bit of a health scare a couple of months ago. But now you are back and you are

better than ever. Yes. Three months ago, I was in the hospital. My blood pressure was near

like stroke levels. Yeah, almost like 200. I went to the doctor. It was like 130 over 77.

But as any great comic book, villain, we simply could not get rid of you. No, but just coming

just killed. It comes back in another form like Jason Voorhees and Friday the 13th. All right.

So let's talk about Mike Pence. Now you have covered Mike Pence for years. He covered him obviously

as a congressman and then as a governor and then as a vice president. And well, did you ever think

he would be reduced to begging people to give him one dollar so that he can make a debate stage?

Well, I know Mike Pence is always wanted to be president. I mean, that's pretty much a foregone

conclusion. Like, hi, Mike Pence. I'm ready for I'm governor. Hi, Mike Pence. I'm ready for

I'm congressman. So Mike, Mike has always wanted to be be president. But my thing with Mike

had always been always had this concern when he ran for governor. It is one thing to give a big

speech about know our founders when they fought the greatest empire in the world. All they

had in Valley forage was there for their blankets, their fall fires, their faith in God,

knowing that they would get them. What do you do about DCS? What do you do about the roads? What do

you about? No, about the prisons, the budget, blah, blah. So Mike has always been sort of a kind of

sort of a talk guy, as opposed to a policy guy per se. Now what that said, real quick, because

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