Oh, this is going to come as a shock to all of you in listener land, but Joe Hogsett has stabbed the people of Indianapolis in the back.

It's the Kennel and Casey show.

I'm Rob Casey's out today.

Oh, boy, we got the perfect person with us today to talk about this because he knows energy.

30 years in the Indiana sit at the great Jim Meredith.

And I know Hogsett.

You too. Weren't you guys like frat brothers? We were fraternity brothers. Yep. That's right. That's crazy. We used to run together. We had the, we won the all campus cross country meet. He and I and a couple others. This is at Indiana University. At IU, yeah. Yeah. The NSA wanted, we used to run together.

Now, think about how your lives, I mean, they were entwined through politics, but you became a decent, respected, esteemed member of society.

And then there's...

Some people might argue about that.

You ain't hog set.

No matter what.

Okay, so the big news that came out yesterday, and by the way, Jesse Brown, a member of the

Indianapolis City County Council is going to be with us at 9.30 to talk about this.

And he is on a rampage, and he should be because this is disgusting.

So it came out last night that Joe Hogsett, the city of Indianapolis, which is Joe Hogsett,

let's call it what it is.

The city of Indianapolis has struck a deal with AES, which is the major utility provider

for electric provider for the city of Indianapolis that they will not object to AES

raising rates, but just not by as much as they were going to raise the rate before.

And this comes at a time, Jim, in which the governor has clearly stated that whoever he's going to point to this IURC,

which will get to that later with you, because you're on that board that's going to make some of those

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