Ken McElroy: 2008 Prices Return for These Properties

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

BiggerPockets

Education, Business, Investing

4.8 • 16.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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This is not 2008 all over again…but the discounts are looking similar. A “slow unwinding” is beginning. Ken McElroy, a multi-decade real estate investor, owner of 10,000 rental units, and one of the biggest names in real estate, is seeing discounts…big discounts. Certain investment properties are being offered to him at 80% off peak prices, and, in his own words, the “blood in the streets” is becoming visible. Now is the time for ready real estate investors to strike. We’re coming straight from The Ken McElroy Show set, live with Ken and Danille McElroy, both real estate investors, but seeing very different realities. Ken focuses on large multifamily while Danille buys (and helps her clients buy) single-family rentals. Even though prices have fallen (dramatically) for multifamily but not single-family, both Ken and Danille are seeing deeply discounted deals, if you know how to spot them. Ken and Danille share their exact real estate investing buy boxes, guidance to investors starting in today’s market, the key to spotting neighborhoods with the best price growth potential, and the dangerous risk to real estate most are ignoring, a “canary in the coal mine” that Ken is paying attention to. In This Episode We Cover The almost unbelievable deals Ken is finding in the multifamily market (80% off) Multifamily’s “slow unwinding” and why we’re seeing more distress in the market The two types of single-family properties Danille says have the biggest deal potential Ken and Danille’s multifamily and single-family buy box for 2026 The key to spotting neighborhoods with the most appreciation (prices and rent) potential A dangerous problem that most real estate investors aren’t paying attention to And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1265. Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	My guest today owned more than 10,000 units and built one of the most recognized brands in real estate investing.
0:07.6	But they each started from a single property, just like everyone else.
0:13.0	Ken and Daniel McElroy have invested through every kind of market cycle of the last three decades.
0:19.7	We're talking about recessions, booms, rate spikes.
0:22.8	They have seen it all from individual condos to hundreds of multifamily units. So I want to know,
0:29.2	what are they doing in today's market? Are they still buying? And how do they stay profitable
0:34.6	when everyone else is sitting on the sidelines?
0:42.6	Today, Ken and Danil are breaking down their market outlook, the strategies they're using right now,
0:46.7	and their advice for real estate investors, whether you're looking for your first property or you're trying to scale up to hundreds of units.
0:49.8	If you want to know how experienced operators navigate uncertainty, this is the conversation.
0:59.8	What's up, everyone? I'm Dave Meyer, chief investment officer at Bigger Pockets, and this is a very
1:06.9	special episode because I'm joined by Ken and Daniel McElroy, where you could say I am
1:12.4	joining them because, as you can see, I'm not at home. We are recording this live from their
1:17.0	studio in Scottsdale. Let's not wait anymore. Let's jump in with Ken and Danil. Ken, Denial, welcome
1:24.0	back to the Bigger Pockets podcast. Thanks for being here. It's been a minute.
1:49.0	Yeah, excited. And Dan, it's your first time? It is my first time. Well, welcome. It's long overdue. Sorry about that. Thanks for being here. Well, I think we should do a refresh then since Ken, it's been a while, Danil your first time. Dunnell, maybe just tell us a little bit about yourself, your background in real estate. Yeah, so I'm a real estate investor. I own five single family units, and I started investing in real estate in 2016. My first investment was a property that I lived in. And I was actually
1:56.6	met Ken when I was looking to convert from a condo to a home for myself. And he said,
2:02.4	why don't you rent the condo and buy a home where I was planning on selling the condo and
2:07.1	then buying a home. And I was resistant, but I did it. And that's how I started in real estate
2:13.1	investing. How did you convince that? It happens, right? I get it. Yeah, absolutely. You have all this equity and you're like, I need it to buy whatever next. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. Let's use it to leverage to get a second one and a third one and fourth one. That's the model, right? I mean, I talk about this on the show a lot. It was probably, I think, the biggest mistake I made early in my investing career. I started building equity in my first deal.
2:36.1	And I felt like that was like my life
2:39.8	savings there. It was like my fallback option, my nest egg, like six years in. I was like, man, I could
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