Kemi Badenoch's plan to save the Tories
Coffee House Shots
The Spectator
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🗓️ 2 October 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
The Prime Minister was set to announce his crackdown on the existing rights of refugees at the European Political Community meeting today; however, he has flown back to chair a Cobra meeting after a terror attack in Manchester. Two people have been killed and at least two others injured after a driver allegedly rammed a car into pedestrians outside a synagogue and attacked them with a knife. The suspect, who was shot by police, is also believed to be dead.
Also on the podcast, Tim Shipman interviews Kemi Badenoch for the magazine this week. As she enters conference season with the Tories running third in the polls behind Reform and Labour, she tells Tim that she is up for a fight. On Friday, her shadow cabinet will agree a policy of leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) but her first conference announcement – revealed exclusively to Tim – will be scrapping the Climate Change Act. Will she resign if the Conservatives go backwards in next year’s elections? ‘Ask me that after the locals,’ she says. Will this be her last Tory conference as leader?
Lucy Dunn speaks to Tim Shipman and James Heale.
Produced by Oscar Edmondson.
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| 0:45.7 | Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. |
| 0:49.0 | I'm Lucy Dunn and today I'm joined by James Heel and Tim Shitten. |
| 0:52.9 | The government was meant to sell its new migration policy today, but Kirstarmer has had to fly back from Copenhagen to chair a cobra meeting after a terror attack in Manchester this morning. |
| 1:00.2 | James, what do we know about this so far? |
| 1:02.5 | What we know is that two have died thus far in this synagogue attack. |
| 1:05.6 | We're expecting to have a Manchester police statement shortly. |
| 1:08.8 | But right now, obviously, everyone is reacting across the political |
| 1:11.3 | spectrum from Nigel Farge, Jeremy Corbyn, etc., to this heinous assault. We expect to see more |
| 1:18.1 | details in the coming hours and presumably days as well. It seems that the attacker was shot by |
| 1:22.4 | Greater Magistair Police, who in the initial verdict seemed to have done very well on this attack, |
| 1:26.7 | and obviously the Prime Minister is flying back from Denmark now in the European Political Community to have done very well on this attack, and obviously the Prime Minister |
| 1:27.6 | is flying back from Denmark now in the European Political Community Summit. So I'm sure we'll |
| 1:32.0 | have more details in the course. And right now, I think everyone's just sort of talking about |
| 1:36.2 | the assaults and obviously in the context of rising anti-Semitism and assaults at synagogues |
| 1:40.8 | across the country. And so I think we'll hear more from, for instance, the Community Security Trust, different various groups related to British Jews over the coming |
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