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You're listening to Insights at the Edge. Today my guest is Kelly Wendorf. Kelly is an executive

and personal development certified master coach, educator, spiritual mentor, and socially responsible

entrepreneur. She is the founding partner of Equus, a leadership development organization based in New Mexico, that

focuses on creating conditions for breakthrough transformative learning with high-performing

individuals, groups, and thought leaders by bringing them into connection with horses. Which sounds true, Kelly has written a new book called

Flying Lead Change, 56 million years of wisdom for leading and living. In this conversation with

Kelly, I learned a lot about our shared evolutionary history with horses and Kelly's view

that we could even see ourselves as evolutionary partners. And specifically, I learned a lot about

what horses can teach us about leadership and how it's not the one who is the mightiest or most domineering

who becomes the leader, but the one who cares the most. Here's my conversation with Kelly Wendorf.

To begin with Kelly, I'd love our listeners to know a bit more about you and how you came,

whatever that winding journey was for you, to lead equine-assisted learning experiences

for organizational leaders and their teams, how you came to do that work.

Thank you. Thanks, Tammy. I think that the work came to me. I didn't really come to it.

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