Welcome, welcome, welcome everyone to the Conversations That Matter Podcast. I'm your host, John Harris, and this is an unannounced live stream on Monday.

It's 137 my time, so people have already finished lunch,

but in other time zones, I'm sure they're joining in.

We're going to talk about something today that happened yesterday. Someone sent it to me this morning and I just thought

you know this is it's worth talking about I haven't finished the Tim Keller series

yet we still have one episode believe it or not to go And I'm hoping to finish that this week. But Tim Keller

did something yesterday that I thought was worth talking about. So that's what we're going to do.

We're going to talk about it. And I'll just jump right into it and maybe we're going to do. We're going to talk about some other things

as the podcast unfolds.

The chat is open for questions or comments

and I will respond accordingly.

Let's start with the subject at hand though.

This is the article that dropped.

This is from the Atlantic and it is called the title of it is American Christianity can still come back.

American Christianity can still come back. Our society is secularizing.

Christianity seems to be in long run decline,

but renewal is possible.

So this is by Tim Keller and it came out on February 5th, so yesterday.

And I'm just going to read through it and give you some comments as we go because Tim Keller,

I skim through this already, I didn't read the whole thing, but what it looks to me like he's doing

is just repackaging what he's always believed from the beginning really if you know anything

about him and he I don't know it's a maybe some of you think it's a broken record

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