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Welcome to Navarra Live.

I'm Michael Walker and I'm joined by Aaron Bustani.

Aaron, how are you doing?

Very well, Michael.

Pleasure to be joining you on this lovely Balmy summer's evening.

We have some interesting stories coming up for.

People have been arrested in connection with the direct action at RAF Brise Norton.

In the second half of the show, I'll be speaking to cognitive scientist Gary Marcus

about why LLMs might not be all they're cracked up to be.

Now, I said it before in the show, and we've talked about AI.

I've had a few people emailing saying you're vastly overestimating the importance, the significance of large language models,

the kind of things that power chat GPT.

Now, Gary Marcus is pretty much the world's most prominent critic of LLM.

So don't say, I don't listen to your emails.

I think this is going to be a really interesting conversation.

Stay tuned for all of that.

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Straight into our first story, though.

In his third U-turn, in a month, Kiers Damme has offered significant concessions to backbenchers in a bid to avoid a major rebellion over his welfare bill next week.

And the welfare bill was set to strip five billion pounds from the welfare budget,

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