I really do feel as if we are part of this long American struggle, which is one of the noblest struggles in humanity.

Every time you think that you can't win, you got to keep going because someday you will.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast from red, wine, and blue.

My name is Katie Paris. I am the founder of red wine and blue. And in five years, we've grown from

just me to a community of over 600,000 working together to change the world. And what we do is help

you make meaningful connections, organizing your community, and become more effective than you ever could

have imagined. So part of why I think that we are successful is that we're real with you.

And right now, let's be real. We're all feeling a sense of overwhelm, hopelessness in some cases,

powerlessness. But you know what is giving me hope right now? It's that

there are so many thousands of you here tonight. And instead of choosing just to sit so low and

kind of bury your head in the sand, you're choosing exactly the opposite by choosing to come together.

And that's what tonight is about.

It's recognizing our agency together and claiming our power. Welcome to our favorite historian,

substack writer, author, and our calm amidst the storm. Heather Cox Richardson. Hi, Heather. Katie,

how are you? I'm a whole lot better now that I'm here with you. And so many of our friends, you know, like 15,000 or so of our best friends and more

streaming in by the second. Well, and that's it, right? You know, we didn't know each other.

Is it five years ago we met? I don't know.

But we're getting up on that. Think about all the communities coming together across this country and all the new friends we've made in so many places, you know, it's hard to feel like it has been an incredible journey. And in some ways, I can't believe I've known you that long.

And in other ways, I feel like I can't remember not knowing you. Well, we're building something.

All of us here. This is the coolest thing because, you know, we have this community here and there are other communities that we interface with.

And, you know, it was always interesting to me before the last election that nobody reported on us.

And I maintain there is this major groundswell in the United States.

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