Standard issue for all women.

Hello, Jen here to tell you about today's episode of the Standard Issue podcast.

But before I do, here's a little look at what else we've got coming up this week.

Tomorrow, it's rated or dated and Hannah has done me a solid by giving us a kids film to watch

with my darling daughter.

And this week it is babe.

But did Lyra end up a vegetarian or not?

Then on Thursday, Hannah's chatting to Christina Hardinge and Naomi Dissomitea about their

incredible new BBC Sounds, Lives Less Ordinary Podcast, Hold Fast.

And she was telling me about that on Friday.

And, oh my goodness, it sounds immense.

Then on Friday there is a brand new episode of Outside the Box and Mickey has been watching more Attenborough because of course she has.

But back to today.

In 2017, Katie O'Neill Gutierrez was keen to get outdoors with her newborn daughter.

But when she searched for local mum and baby groups combining her love of the outdoors with her newborn daughter, but when she searched for local

mum and baby groups combining her love of the outdoors with meeting other new parents, she

couldn't find anything that fit the bill. What started with just a few of her friends meeting in

North London for a walk, turned into blaze trails, a national organisation with more than 60 groups

across the UK meeting regularly. I caught up with

Katie to talk about the impacts of the organisation on the mental health of its members,

combating loneliness in new parents, barriers to caregivers, getting active, and why equality

can be so hard to come by in family life. What an absolutely legend, Katie, is. I

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