Katy Milkman: ...the path to expect requires you to enjoy the journey

Nobody Told Me!

Business, Entrepreneurship

4.2 • 671 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Trying to change a habit, but without much luck? Our guest on this episode, Professor Katy Milkman, is an award-winning behavioral scientist at The Wharton School and the author of the book, "How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be". Her website is katymilkman.com.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Nobody Told Me.
0:13.5	I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan Black.
0:15.9	Most people are trying to change one habit or another for the better.
0:19.9	And they've probably tried to change before,
0:22.2	but without much luck. Our guest on this episode, Professor Katie Milkman, is an award-winning
0:27.4	behavioral scientist at the Wharton School. And Katie's research explores ways that insights
0:33.2	from economics and psychology can be used to change behaviors for good.
0:37.9	She's the author of a new book on that topic called How to Change the Science of Getting
0:43.3	from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be.
0:45.9	Katie, thank you so much for joining us.
0:48.2	Thanks so much for having me.
0:49.6	I'm wondering how your background in engineering affects your approach to this topic of change.
0:56.9	I think it has a big impact, and I love that question.
1:00.9	It isn't something I realized was shaping the way I approached the topic for many years.
1:06.3	And actually, when I sat down to write this book and looked back at the different discoveries
1:11.7	that I had made and the discoveries my colleagues had made that I found most exciting and most
1:16.5	useful, I realized there was a common theme, which was that each of those discoveries really
1:23.6	harnessed an understanding of what the forces of opposition to change were and tailored a
1:29.7	solution that was well suited to countering those forces. And an engineer is trained to think
1:37.1	about the world in terms of forces and counter forces to design with an understanding of the
1:43.6	environment that they're up against.
1:46.1	And what I realized is that the best work on behavior change has that exact structure as well.
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