I think that's the challenge. When you do have an adventurous lifestyle, that that is your job,

um, often you find yourself reaching for the normal.

Okay. We're quoting. Okay. We're doing this. We're doing it. Great.

So do you want to jump straight into this?

How do you want to do it?

Anything you want to say?

I'm incapable of being in charge now.

I've been in charge for two weeks and now I just have to follow in everything. So how long does it take you to recover from these races?

Well, I actually had this conversation last night because when we worked more closely,

I was like, you know, kind of rallying for all the skippers to need the amount of time off after whatever they do

as they had when they did it.

So like if you work for two weeks to have, you need two weeks off.

So I would rally that.

But of course, like I would champion that for everyone else.

But when it comes to myself, it's been like five days,

you know, and I'm like, why am I not recovered? So I actually think for racing,

I think I actually do. I think I need exactly the amount of time on the water as I need off.

Which doesn't make for a great financial program.

Yeah, fair.

What is different about racing that it takes so much out of you?

Well, yeah, me and Alex talked about how it's so great that we get to race with 59 North

and we get to like sail

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