Hello and welcome to the slow home podcast. This is the podcast all about slow living in a fast-paced world. My name is Ben McCallery.

My name is Ben McCallery. And welcome to the final episode of the summer series slash winter warmies.

Now in this chat, you're bringing us again.

You talk to an environmental engineer and designer.

This one fascinated me when we did this and designer who applies data. Yep. And behavioral change strategies, techniques,

to solve the world's environmental problems. Mm-hmm. I do. That's like the newest of new jobs.

Well, yeah. They're the jobs that people used to talk about being created when we were still at school.

Do you know that?

Like the new jobs of the future?

Well, we'll often say to our kids that there's every chance at the job that you end,

one of the jobs you end up doing throughout your career doesn't exist yet.

I think 60% or something of the jobs don't exist at the moment.

Anyway.

So on the face of it, that kind of blurb of this conversation would potentially suggest

that this has very little to do with slow living.

Yes.

You know, I don't talk about technology and using the technology that's at hand very often other than to talk about how to distance

themselves.

Managing.

But this conversation has everything to do with slow living.

And particularly, if you've listened to the podcast for the last 12 months or so, you'll

notice that our focus has 100% definitely shifted towards slowing down in order to create positive

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