All right, welcome everyone to Bret Weinstein's Dark Horse Podcast. I am Bret Weinstein, your host,

and I am here sitting with Katie Herzog, who is, are you still the second most hated author at

the stranger? I would think that that's true. It's sort of a, it's a self-proclaimed identifier,

so there hasn't been a poll, but judging from my Twitter mentions, I'd say probably second-handedly.

Still second-hated. I'm rising in the ranks. You're rising in the ranks, okay? Good. I'm trying.

Here's hoping you make it the poll position. So welcome, man. Thank you for doing this. Yeah,

good to see you. It's great to see you. We were on a panel together last night with Heather Hying,

where we talked about the necessity of hate speech, which was an interesting,

interesting topic near and dear to both of our hearts, I would say. We both love hate speech. Oh,

man, yeah. So I read on Twitter. Yes, that's what I've heard about us as well. So tell me,

what's on your mind these days? Oh, gosh, what's my mom these days? Politics, as usual, I'm thinking

a lot about the Democratic race for president. I'm thinking a lot about how I think Democrats are

failing the Democratic race for president and the media establishment. I'm thinking a lot about

how it seems like we learned very, very few lessons from 2016 and see my destined to repeat

the same errors. So that's what I'm thinking about. I mean, don't Democrats always mess up the race

for president? I mean, isn't that kind of their role? Democrats do have a higher barrier to

success in Republicans. I mean, the system is built to support rural places, the electoral college,

you know, it's real, but instead of acknowledging that and dealing with the reality of things like

the electoral college, the Democrats just seem to do the same thing, which this year is, you know,

the top candidates are moving further and further to the left, I think to appeal to the media,

which is far more liberal leftists than the voting populace. So it's really a catch-22, you know,

they have to appeal to the sort of people like me who work in the media, these sort of gatekeepers

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