I own it, I didn't, not proud that was me, and when I face it a little dignity, not looking for excuses, I just want to be free from power, weakness, head on sea.

Free, free, free, free, free.

Free, free.

Hi, everyone, and welcome to the bubble hour where real people tell real stories of addiction and recovery.

I'm Gene McCarthy.

I write the blog Unpickled, where I've been telling my story of life after alcohol since my

first day of sobriety in 2011.

I tell my story there, and I invite you to share your story here. And today on the

podcast, I'm really excited to introduce you to a new friend of mine, someone I met at a

retreat in December and you've actually heard her voice a little bit because she was on a number

of episodes that I posted at the end of season seven.

Actually, the first few episodes in season eight, one called How They Did It.

And then there were some Christmas episodes at the end of season seven as well.

So you have met this lady already if you're a regular listener of this show, but today

you're going to get to know her a little bit better. It's my friend Kathy Robin, who is a psychotherapist

and certified recovery coach and also a woman in successful long-term recovery herself.

She has got a heart of gold, and she's one of those ladies who really sees people you see it in

every interaction that she has she can tell she sees the good in people and she's so darn

interested in learning from others and in sharing the things that she has learned that have

changed her life so i'm really excited to chat with her today not only to hear her story

but also

because some friends of mine in recovery sent me questions. I said, what would you like to

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