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listening. Terms apply. Hi, this is Laura Vanderkim. I'm a mother of four, an author,

journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three, an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger.

I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger on the side.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.

Welcome to Best of Both worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career goals, we want you to get the most out of life.

Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura, and this is episode 37. We're going to be talking

today with Catherine Reynolds-Lewis, who is the author of a brand new book called The Good

News About Bad Behavior, about children and disciplines. We're looking forward to that.

We're also looking forward to it because Catherine has been my long-term accountability partner.

She and I began checking in with each other weekly about five years ago that we both had long-term

speculative career projects we wanted to take on. She and I had gotten to know each other

through sort of journalism circles, and I had read something she wrote for Fortune magazine

about career coaches. And I, you know, emailed her saying, have you ever hired a

career coach? How did it work out? And she said, you know what? I don't need a coach. I just need

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