Katherine Morgan Schafler: ...being a perfectionist is a source of energy, inspiration, and joy

Nobody Told Me!

Business, Entrepreneurship

4.2 • 671 Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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If you see yourself as a perfectionist, learn how to get your perfectionism to work for you and not against you. Our guest is psychotherapist Katherine Morgan Schafler, who is a former on-site therapist at Google and the author of the new book, "THE PERFECTIONIST’S GUIDE TO LOSING CONTROL: A Path to Peace and Power".

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0:00.0	Welcome to Nobody Told Me.
0:11.2	I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jane Black.
0:14.0	If you see yourself as a perfectionist, stay tuned as we look at how to get your perfectionism to work for you and not against you.
0:21.0	Our guest is psychotherapist Catherine Morgan Schaffler, who is a former on-site therapist
0:25.8	at Google and the author of a great new book called The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control,
0:32.1	a path to peace and power.
0:34.6	Catherine, we thank you so much for joining us.
0:37.0	Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here.
0:39.9	Why did you decide to write the book? I mean, I think it's a fantastic topic, but what made you think,
0:45.4	hey, this information needs to be out there in the world? I'm obsessed with the topic, by the way.
0:50.3	Me too. You and me both.
0:57.9	You know, so many answers to that question, but a couple jump out at me.
1:02.8	Primarily, I think this book chose me.
1:05.8	And I really am a therapist.
1:09.7	I have a minor in teaching and education.
1:12.8	And I thought, like this is the last thing I really thought I would do is write a book, but I had to. And someone told me along the process of writing
1:19.7	this book that you write the books you most need yourself. And so I think what happened was
1:25.9	I worked with a lot of perfectionists and noticed a lot of patterns.
1:30.8	And I'm a perfectionist myself.
1:33.4	And I just had so many more questions than answers, like 100,000 percent more questions than answers.
1:40.9	And I just, this book is my attempt to just dent the beginning of answering
1:47.2	so much about perfectionism that I don't think our culture understands at all.
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