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Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Kate Crawford: Artificial Intelligence – neither artificial nor intelligent

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Bobi NYC

Science, Society & Culture, Comedy

4.83.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Twenty years of exploring the technical, social and environmental impact of AI has convinced Kate Crawford that we should be much more skeptical about where AI is useful – and concerned about where it is harmful. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/clearandvivid

Transcript

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0:00.0

Clearin Vivid is supported by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's program in public understanding,

0:07.2

which aims to enrich people's lives through a keener appreciation of our increasingly

0:11.8

scientific and technological world, and to portray the complex humanity of scientists,

0:18.5

engineers, and mathematicians.

0:21.5

I'm Alan Olga, and this is Clearin Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.

0:32.5

I've actually gone to all of the places where artificial intelligence is generated.

0:41.0

What was really clear to me is that it's certainly not artificial.

0:45.2

AI is made of people, it's made of minerals, it's made of salt and coal, and so in that sense,

0:52.8

it's really the opposite of artificial.

0:55.1

It's profoundly material.

0:57.4

But at the same time, we think of it as intelligent as though somehow we're creating these brains

1:03.3

that live in sort of disembodied space, but it's not human intelligence or even really

1:08.6

light human intelligence.

1:10.3

So in many ways, I think this term, artificial intelligence has become a bit of a cognitive

1:15.4

trap where we tend to assume that these systems are somehow smarter than they are and also

1:22.1

less impactful on the planet.

1:25.9

That's Kate Crawford.

1:27.6

She's the author of the book, Adelaide of AI, Power, Politics, and the planetary costs of

1:33.5

artificial intelligence.

1:35.5

AI, machine intelligence, deep learning, all these are technologies that I've been fascinated

1:40.8

with for years now, fascinated with both their ability to help us understand the world

1:46.6

and nervous about their inability to understand us humans.

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