I'm Alan Olga and this is Clear and Vivid. Conversations about connecting and communicating.

Hi and welcome to the preview of season 16. I'm here with Graham Shed, our estimable executive

producer, Hi Graham. Hi there. Estimable huh? Yeah, full of worthy of esteem. Okay, we're

going to run over some of the things that we're going to be covering in season 16 of Clear and Vivid.

And your guess is going to range from looking for life on other worlds to how to put together words

to make poetry. For what it's like to discover you can no longer smile, to how to play a guitar on

the International Space Station. And from how successful movements from social change usually require

careful incubation before going public to how the next generation to follow hours can confront

climate change with knowledge rather than fear. But we start with Michael Keaton. And you know,

I love to talk with other actors because it's a form of communication that I'm steeped in.

And obviously I've been doing it all my life. And I like to see how they do it. So I was really

glad to be able to talk with the extraordinary actor Michael Keaton. And he told me about the

roundabout path that he took. And it's one that we all often take a roundabout path in an acting

career. It was an unusual beginning for such a fine dramatic actor to start out and stand up

comedy. And he told me how that went. I was in college and I had already taken a drama class.

And I never read plays before. You know, there were classic plays and it would discuss plays.

And I never did that. And that was interesting to me. And then I took another theater class.

And it was more here to acting. And I auditioned for a play and got it. It wasn't really good in it.

And it no bell nothing went off. It was like, okay, oh no, okay, experience. And then I

started taking some class. But I was writing comedy. I started writing comedy back to you. Because I

just loved it so much. And so when I was doing a play in Pittsburgh, but I was simultaneously

working at a public broadcasting station doing like, you know, not maintenance work.

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