Today's episode is sponsored by Estay Lauder, the nighttime skin care expert.

We will explain what we mean in a bit, but first let's get into the episode. You have to realize your limits. I've realized that when I push myself too hard, it doesn't

serve me. It actually is so counterproductive because when you reach

that burnout you feel so empty and so you're not doing yourself any justice and I think what I've learned is to have

balance in my life and to really take time and prioritize time to protect my mental and physical health.

I'm Carly Zaken.

I'm Danielle Weisberg.

Welcome to Skim from the couch.

This podcast is where we go deep on career advice from women who have lived it.

From the good stuff like hiring and growing a team,

to the rough stuff like negotiating your salary

and giving or getting hard feedback.

We started the skim from a couch so what better place to

talk it all out than where it began on a couch.

Today we have Carly Closs with us on Skim from the Couch. Since walking in her

first fashion week at age 15, Carly has become one of the most famous supermodels in the world.

She's been on the cover of Vogue over 40 times

and has been the face of countless global campaigns.

And she's also an entrepreneur.

As an avid coder herself, Carly founded the nonprofit Coding Boot Camp Code with Clossie.

The program started with just 21 scholarships in 2015

and it has now grown to over 50 camps in 25 cities.

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