This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske.

Here now, Tony Bruske.

We really, and the prosecution is spelling this out 10 times better than Lally did in round one.

This, he is painting an emotional picture and he's painting, I think, a familial picture for most of the jurors in this

part of the country, where people go out, it's cold, they drink. I'm from Wisconsin. It's what they do.

It is part of the culture there, and it's part of the culture here, clearly. And this is just normal

life. And he's talking about, yeah, you know, you go out with your friends. It's somebody's part of the culture here, clearly. And this is just normal life. And he's talking about,

yeah, you know, you go out with your friends. It's somebody's birthday, the family, the friends get

together. That reminds me of my childhood. People, this is, this is completely familial to me. And

I think, okay, I can totally see all of this happening. We see the waterfall. There's nothing that

happened there. There's no waterfall. There's nothing that happened

there. There's no fights. Everybody's in a good mood. Everybody is even texting when they eventually

do leave the Albert's house about what a good time they had that. There's even compliments about

Karen in some of those texts. So nobody's like, nudge, nudge, what a good time. Karen's great, isn't she? She's

going to go down that bitch. Like, none of that is happening from these people, the night of the

actual event. And then we get to the morning. We get to the phone calls from Karen to Carrie and to Jennifer McCabe.

Let's start with, by listening to the information that Carrie Roberts has portrayed to the jury with her testimony.

We'll talk on the other side.

Karen pointed out and said, look, my tail light.

And I said, she said, do you think I hit him?

And I said, no, I don't think you hit him.

What are you talking about? Let's just go find him.

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