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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Kara Swisher: The Year Ahead in Tech & Politics (Elon for President — of Mars)

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

John is joined by Kara Swisher—longtime chronicler of the Silicon Valley cinematic universe, host of two hit podcasts, and author of the bestselling Burn Book: A Tech Love Story—to discuss why 2025 will be the year of slap fights among bitchy tech billionaires competing for Donald Trump's affections. Swisher analyzes the relationships between Trump and Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, and other infobarons; why the tech elite's eagerness to cash in on the “coin-op president” promises to turn Trump 2.0 into a pay-for-play free-for-all; and the future of BlueSky as Musk accelerates X’s transformation into a “Nazi porn bar.” She also speculates on Elon’s ultimate objective: not to conquer DC but to relocate to Mars—a goal that Kara and John both heartily endorse. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Aloha and namaste everyone and welcome to Impolitic with John Heilman, a puck and Odyssey joint,

0:42.1

featuring lively in-depth, sometimes ever so slightly profane conversations with the people who roam the quarters of power and influence in America,

0:49.2

weaving the warped and weft of our politics and culture.

0:52.6

Although we have now really turned the page on 2024,

0:56.6

this podcast is still in the midst of its Christmas slash New Year's slash covering

1:01.2

J.H.'s' ass while he's off the grid series of episodes looking backwards, forwards,

1:05.8

or both at the biggest, most impactful, and important stories, trends, and ideas of 2024 and into

1:12.2

2025 in the cultural realms that rule our world. And our show today deals with a realm where

1:19.8

that rule our world thing is quite literally and increasingly and disturbingly true.

1:29.4

Talking about the commanding heights of the high-tech industry,

1:32.6

whose multi-billionaire denizens from Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos

1:36.9

to Mark Zuckerberg and Peter Thiel are suiting up

1:40.7

to play an outsized role in the Trump 2.0 administration. And who better to talk us through what that might look like than the Keraswisher,

1:50.0

the most fearsome and formidable chronicler of this era's info barons,

1:56.0

and I would add, obviously, patently, blatantly,

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