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Offline with Jon Favreau

Kara Swisher on the Very Online War in Ukraine

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

To open Offline’s new feed, Jon interviews Kara Swisher, Silicon Valley’s most feared and respected journalist. The two discuss the ongoing war in Ukraine — how it marks the first true conflict of the internet age, why Putin is losing the misinformation battle, and what makes Zelensky a compelling online hero. Kara also gives Jon insight into Big Tech’s most important founders and teaches him a few interview tricks to use as Offline continues. For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.

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0:00.0

You know the psychology of these tech founders better than anyone.

0:05.2

Do they just see themselves as misunderstood geniuses who are trying to save the world

0:10.3

if the media would just stop attacking them?

0:12.7

That's what it feels like to me, but I don't know.

0:14.7

No, no.

0:15.7

I just did a really great interview.

0:16.7

I recommend listening with Brian Cheskey at our pivot conference.

0:19.7

I like Brian.

0:20.7

And he understood.

0:21.7

He was like, look, if you get licked up and down all day eventually, you're going to

0:24.0

think you're Jesus, right?

0:25.0

You know what I mean?

0:26.0

I don't like to mix those metaphors, but you know what I'm saying.

0:29.4

He he talked a lot about this issue about being, you know, told you were right and you

0:34.4

surround yourself with people who agree with you violently.

0:37.2

But yes, that's, that Kara Swisher, she's so mean, you know, that could be whatever.

0:41.9

If you say it over and over again, and sometimes I am mean, but not all the time.

0:48.0

I'm John Favreau.

0:49.0

Welcome to Offline.

0:50.0

Hey everyone, before we begin, let me just say welcome to the new feed.

0:57.1

I'm very excited to keep these conversations going.

1:00.1

There's so many corners of the internet we haven't covered yet.

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