Hey, everyone. Before we get started, I have some exciting news to share.

Offline is here to stay. And starting on March 6th, new episodes of the show will be released

on its very own feed. Today's episode will be the last one on the Podsave America feed.

So if you like the show, and you want to keep listening, do me a favor that will take like 10

seconds. Go to your favorite podcast app, search offline with John Favreau, and subscribe to

the new feed. You can also find the link in the show notes. Subscribing now and even rating the

show will help make sure you don't miss an episode, and it will help make sure that other people

find it. We'll be taking next week off to get everything settled and maybe even unplugged for a

few days. But I'll see you again soon on March 6th in our brand new feed. Now onto the show.

I definitely see the people around me who are really jacked into Twitter becoming worse versions

of themselves. I don't see people get on Twitter, and it seems to improve them and leave them

into a more virtuous life. You don't meet anyone and you're like, oh, I follow you on Twitter.

You're actually much worse in person. You never have that experience, right?

I'm John Favreau. Welcome to Offline.

My guess this week is Ezra Klein. Hosted the Ezra Klein show, columnist at The New York Times,

an author of the book Why Were Polarized. I could have talked to Ezra about any number of topics

related to this show. If you listen to his podcast and you should, it's excellent. He's talked to

a few of the same guests about some of the same issues. But I wanted to talk to him specifically

about how social media shapes politics. For one thing, we haven't yet done an episode that's

focused on politics, even though it's a theme that's been running through most of our conversations.

And as I told Ezra when I asked him to be on the show, I wanted to talk to someone who could be

more interesting than a politician and more scholarly than a typical hack like me. He also spends

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