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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Kara Swisher knows when to fold ‘em

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Politics, Government

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Kara Swisher has hosted the annual Code Conference for the last twenty years. Recently she announced that this was her final year organizing and running the event, which concluded on Thursday in Los Angeles. At the final big panel on Wednesday evening, Swisher ended things where she started: with a conversation about Steve Jobs. She gathered the famous Apple designer Jony Ive and the widow of Steve Jobs — Laurene Powell Jobs — and the CEO of Apple — Tim Cook — who flew to Los Angeles for Swisher hours after unveiling the new iPhone 14 at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino. The event ended much more poignant than one would expect at a conference about technology and politics. Afterward, Playbook Co-Author Ryan Lizza met Swisher in a suite on the 8th floor of the Beverly Hilton at what was Code's last secret poker party. They talked about the end of her running the Code Conference, her long and winding career … and why she loves saying no. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Afra Abdullah is associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is senior editor for POLITICO audio.Adam Allington is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Where did you get the famous Kara Swisher swaggering confidence?

0:05.0

Since I was a kid. No, no was my favorite word. I don't think so.

0:10.0

Kara Swisher has spent her career perfecting the art of saying no.

0:15.0

In the late 90s, when the Washington Post offered what they considered the ultimate gig,

0:21.0

a top job covering politics, Swisher said no and moved to California to write about tech for the Wall Street Journal.

0:29.0

Years later, in 2014, she and her colleague Walt Mossberg left the journal

0:34.0

and started their own mini-tech coverage empire called Recode.

0:39.0

At the time, it was a big event in media. Top journalists were leaving legacy companies

0:44.0

and testing whether they could survive as entrepreneurs, similar to Politico's founding

0:49.0

by refugees from the Washington Post.

0:52.0

At the heart of Swisher's new venture was an annual event,

0:55.0

which eventually became known as the Code Conference, where she mined her role at ex of tech CEOs

1:00.0

to come sit in giant red chairs for intimate interviews in a small theater.

1:05.0

Steve Jobs was an early and frequent guest.

1:08.0

It became a lucrative business, too. People pay thousands of dollars to attend every year

1:13.0

and advertisers pay millions.

1:16.0

Recently, Swisher announced that she was leaving the New York Times,

1:19.0

where she hosted a successful podcast and wrote a popular newsletter.

1:23.0

Now she's bringing all of her various platforms inside her home at box media.

1:28.0

But the real stunner came more recently when she announced that this was her last year organizing

1:33.0

and running the annual Code Conference, which concluded on Thursday in Los Angeles.

1:39.0

This year's event at the Beverly Hilton, that's where they do the Golden Globes each year,

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