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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Kara Goucher - Alberto Salazar and the Nike Oregon Project

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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True Crime, Talk Radio, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Accomplished Olympic runner and The Longest Race author Kara Goucher shares how she and her partner were invited to join the prestigious Nike Oregon Project and coach Alberto Salazar, how Alberto's methods seemed effective at first but became more controlling and inappropriate over time, what led her to become a whistleblower, and the stark contrast she eventually saw with a healthy coaching relationship. Check out our great sponsors! ZocDoc: Go to Zocdoc.com/trustme and download the Zocdoc app for FREE! Progressive: Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive! Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at TrustMePod@gmail.com CHECK OUT OUR MERCH!! bit.ly/trustmemerch   INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast

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0:00.0

If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group or if you've had

0:04.1

experience with manipulation or abuse the power that you'd like to share, leave us a message

0:08.4

on our hotline number at 347-86 trust. That's 347-868-7878 or shoot us an e-mail at TrustMePod

0:18.2

at gmail.com. Trust me, do you trust me? Trust me, I'm like a smart person. Yeah, I've never

0:25.6

lied to you. I never have lied. If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

0:32.5

Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief, and manipulation from two airbuds

0:38.0

who've actually experienced it. I'm Lowell Blanc, and I'm Megan Elizabeth. Today our guest is

0:42.5

the fabulous Kara Goucher. She is an accomplished long-distance runner and she is the author of a book

0:47.7

called The Longest Race, which has just come out. She's going to talk to us about how she got her

0:51.8

start running, how she became a professional athlete, and why it was a dream come true when Nike

0:56.7

called inviting her to join the Nike Oregon Project with iconic coach Alberto Salazar. It was like

1:01.9

getting an invitation to Hogwarts, but for running. She'll talk to us about how her coach was

1:06.4

effective at first using unconventional methods to improve her running, including some that were

1:10.9

later widely accepted as effective, but how those methods became more controlling and inappropriate

1:16.1

over time, ultimately leading her to become a whistleblower about what she experienced.

1:20.4

Plus the stark contrast she saw when she actually experienced a healthy relationship with a coach,

1:25.2

and I think that stuff is always important to mention what a healthy dynamic can look like.

1:29.9

Healthy leadership. Healthy leadership. Healthy coaching. I mean, it's not that rare. I

1:36.2

stop that. I think it's out there. I think it's out there. Before we dive in. Yeah, I'll be

1:41.1

more positive. It's probably more rare to have it be super narcissistic and abusive.

1:46.0

I think that is probably more rare. It's just those are the stories that obviously capture

1:50.2

our attention more. I agree. Great reframe, Lola. Thank you. What's your cultiest thing, Megan?

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