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Kansas Moms case, 5 of God's misfits in a crowded hearing.

Police Off The Cuff/Real Crime Stories

Bill Cannon Police off the Cuff/Real Crime Stories

True Crime, Military, Law Enforcement, Crime

4.4 • 870 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

ansas moms case, 5 of God's misfits in a crowded hearing. #TifanyAdams #paulgrice #tadcullum Defendants accused of killing two Kansas mothers appeared in court Wednesday as attorneys noted a key piece of evidence is still missing from discovery. The five suspects are accused of killing Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley, two mothers who were driving from Kansas to Oklahoma for a supervised visit with Butler’s children. At one point, nine deputies, seven defense attorneys and three prosecutors were present in the courtroom. All five defendants were also present in what the judge called a “physical arrangement [that] is unprecedented in this courtroom’s history and this courthouse.” The courtroom had been outfitted to accommodate all the defendants, using space in the jury box to sit all those who needed to be present. Delays in discovery Tifany Adams, 54; her boyfriend Tad Cullum, 43; Cora Twombly, 44; her husband Cole Twombly, 50; and Paul Grice, 31, are accused of conspiring to commit murder. Investigators say the killings stemmed from a bitter custody battle between Butler and Adams, the paternal grandmother of Butler’s children. Defense attorneys complained to the judge about not having received evidence from the prosecution as part of the discovery process. There was also concern about the fact that discovery would be coming from multiple agencies, including the FBI, which can be difficult in state cases. Defense attorneys expressed concerns that the lack of discovery would not give them enough time to review evidence prior to a preliminary hearing. The prosecutors noted that the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation is likely turning over four terabytes of discovery and will produce two terabytes prior to the preliminary hearing. One key piece of evidence that has not been received is the medical examiner’s report on how the two women died, with both defense attorneys and prosecutors saying they did not have the final report. According to prosecutors, that information is expected in two to three weeks. (NewsNation)

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone and welcome to police off the cuff, real crime stories.

0:16.4

I'm your host, retired NYPD sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

0:22.9

You know, we're revisiting the case of the Kansas moms.

0:26.2

And, of course, you see the photos up on the screen.

0:29.7

Veronica Butler to the left age 27 and Jillian Kelly, age 39.

0:36.1

Just an absolutely tragic case.

0:38.5

And these five individuals now had their second court appearance yesterday in what has been known as the Kansas Mom's case.

0:49.4

And largely, they were in a group called God's Misfits. And as you read on the thumbnail,

0:57.1

five misfits and one crowded courtroom hearing in Kansas Mom's case. So the defendants

1:03.3

that accused of killing two Kansas moms appeared in court yesterday. As attorneys noted,

1:09.4

a key piece of evidence is still missing from

1:11.7

the discovery. The five suspects are accused of killing Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly,

1:18.3

two mothers who were driving from Kansas to Oklahoma for a supervised visit with Butler's children.

1:24.9

At one point, this was yesterday, nine deputies, seven defense attorneys,

1:29.0

and three prosecutors were present in the courtroom. All five defendants were also present

1:34.8

in what the judge called a physical arrangement that is unprecedented in this courtroom's

1:39.9

history and in this courthouse. The courtroom has been outfitted to accommodate all the

1:45.0

defendants using space in the jury box to sit all those who needed to be president, excuse

1:50.8

me, present. Tiffany Adams, 54, her boyfriend Tad Cullum 43, Cora Twombly, 44. Her husband

1:59.6

called Twombly 50 and Paul Greiser accused of conspiring to commit murder.

2:04.9

Investigators say the killing stemmed from a bitter custody battle between Butler and Adams, the paternal grandmother of Butler's children.

2:14.3

Defense attorneys complained to the judge about not having received evidence from the prosecution as part of the discovery process.

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