They come from the bowls of hell.

The Dana Gould Hour.

The Dana Gouldower. Jungle worms and small friends.

Brought a dog, the chilse a calf that ate the canary.

What is true?

And once again, welcome back.

We're back.

My guest today is Jay Kogan.

Now, you are probably mostly familiar with that name if you are a Simpsons fan

going back to the very beginning because that is when Jay was on the show. He was there at the ground floor with his writing partner, Wally

Walladarski. They were among the original writers of the show. They created it

and helped form the show as we know it today.

Jay created Duff Beer, Kang and Kodos,

and so much more.

He was also a writer on Frazier, for which he won an Emmy.

And Jay created, along with me one of my very first pilots,

the late lamented world on a string, which got made did not go to series but did inadvertently

lead to me eventually joining the writing staff of the Simpsons myself.

Jay is also a second generation comedy writer. His dad Arnie Kogan was a writer for the Tonight Show, the Carol Burnett Show, Mad magazine, and Jay grew up in that world.

Tons of amazing stories.

I will be posting World on a string for your viewing pleasure on my

Patreon page in the next couple of days. On True Tales from Weardsville this

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