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Next Up with Mark Halperin

Kamala’s 107 Excuses, Corey Lewandowski on Trump 3.0, and Detroit’s Mayor on Leaving the Dem Party

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Mark Halperin kicks off today’s show by breaking down what Kamala Harris has — and hasn’t — done since losing the 2024 election. While Donald Trump has used his second term to reshape the political landscape, Harris has largely receded from the stage. Mark explores her indecision, lack of public engagement, and what her next chapter might reveal about the Democratic Party’s future. Harris says the system is broken — but Mark argues it’s not. The system is intact, and if she wants to lead, she’ll need to put in the work… because changing America takes more than 107 days. Then, Corey Lewandowski joins Mark to chart the evolution of Donald Trump’s political life — from before the golden escalator ride to today. The longtime confidant shares insights on Trump’s inner circle, who might win Trump’s 2028 backing, and what could be next for the 45th president. It’s a rare behind-the-scenes look at Trump past, present, and future from someone who’s been there since the beginning. Plus, Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan joins Mark to discuss his bid for Michigan governor as an independent — and why he believes breaking free from partisan politics is the only way forward. Duggan explains how he helped lead Detroit out of bankruptcy, from restoring basic services to doubling property values and adding tens of thousands of jobs. He makes the case for pragmatic, results-driven leadership — and lays out what it will take to win Michigan. American Financing: Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an avg of $800/mo. 866-886-2026 or visit https://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Next - NMLS 182334, https://nmlsconsumeraccess.org Birch Gold: Text NEXT to 989898 and get your free info kit on gold

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0:00.0

Welcome, people of Earth. This is next up. I'm your host, Mark Kalpren Earthling,

0:07.3

editor-in-chief of the live interactive video platform two-way, and your guide, as always,

0:12.0

to everything that's next up in politics, media, and beyond on today's program. The mayor of Motown,

0:18.4

Mike Duggan, who's running as an independent for governor of Michigan.

0:22.3

We'll talk to him about how he sees a path there and now he has become so popular governing a city that used to be seen as pretty ungovernable.

0:29.8

And then longtime Trump advisor, Corey Lewandowski. He's been with Donald Trump since the beginning of the politics of 2015.

0:37.1

We'll talk all about how Donald Trump is doing in this term and a little bit of history of how he got where he is.

0:42.9

Plus, our patented word association game about Trump luminaries.

0:47.4

That's with the Corey.

0:48.1

But up next, first up, my reported monologue.

0:52.5

What is next up for Vice President Kamala Harris? This is a question that

0:57.2

I've been surprised at how little it's been discussed ever since she made the decision not to run

1:01.9

for governor of California and announced her book. It has been 274 days since Donald Trump beat

1:08.5

Kamala Harris to win back White House, 197 days since Donald Trump took

1:13.4

the oath of office for the second time and began thoroughly dominating our politics.

1:18.7

In that time, it's been fascinating to see how Kamala Harris has gone forward. Their path have

1:26.0

diverged, Trump and Harris, to say the least. Donald Trump's

1:29.0

never running for president again. He sort of reaffirms that whenever he's asked. Kamala Harris might,

1:34.8

but for the last 274 days, both Trump and Harris have really operated true to form. Both of them

1:41.2

have played to type. Trump has been in the spotlight almost every day,

1:45.6

even during the transition, and he is kind of reflected and represented where he has taken his party,

1:51.1

the country, and the world. On the other hand, Kamala Harris has barely and rarely been on the stage,

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