Hello and welcome to the Slow Home podcast. This is the podcast all about slow living in a fast-paced world.

My name is Brooke McCallory. My name is Ben McCallery. Welcome to episode three season. No, episode four,

season four, season three. Sure, yes. Season three, episode four is another way of saying it.

I'm just trying to flip it in my head. That's right. Season three, episode 4 is another way of saying it. I'm just trying to flip it in my head.

That's right.

Season 3, episode 4.

In the vein of speaking to people from all walks of the slow slash intentional movement,

you talk today with a anti-diet dietitian? Close, non-diet dietician. Non-diet dietician. Kaley Gray is my guest

today. And Kaley is not only a non-diet dietician, which I think is a great play on her desire

to remove the idea of the diet culture from food.

Such a loaded word.

But it is.

It really is.

So, you know, that's one way that Kaylee sets herself apart immediately.

But her work is also as a body confidence expert.

And essentially, she works with people to heal their relationship with their bodies and with food through the lens of her own experiences, which we talk about

quite a bit in today's episode, as someone who did suffer from a bad, like a poor relationship

with her body and with food. Kaylee has now taken not only what she she knows as an expert in

diet, you know, as a dietitian, but also through

the lens of self-compassion and self-care and mindfulness and, you know, observation and

paying attention. And that's really where our two worlds cross over beautifully. So we have

this fantastic conversation about why so many of us have broken

...