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One by Willie

Kacey Musgraves on "Are You Sure"

One by Willie

John Spong

Willie Nelson, Music, Music History, Music Commentary, Guitar, Spong, Music Interviews, Society & Culture, Austin, Texas Monthly, Country Music, Arts, Americana, Songwriting, Outlaw Country

4.6898 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Singer-songwriter-superstar Kacey Musgraves goes deep into Willie’s back catalog to discuss “Are You Sure.” It was one of the first demos he cut when he moved to Nashville—though it’s probably best-known by the duet Kacey and Willie recorded for her Grammy-nominated 2015 album Pageant Material—and it prompts her to talk about what she calls “real-ass country songs,” the lucky joint Willie gave her, and singing “Rainbow Connection” with him at the 2019 CMA awards. Oh and she also does the best Owen Wilson impression you will hear all year.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Texas Monthly.

0:11.4

Hey there, I'm John Spong with Texas Monthly magazine, and this is One by Willie, a podcast in which I talk each week to one notable Willie Nelson fan about one Willie

0:21.5

song that they really love. This week, we kick off season three with none other than singer,

0:26.9

songwriter, superstar Casey Musgraves, who's here to talk about Are You Sure?

0:32.9

It's a pretty obscure Willie song, a deep cut off his 1965 album Country Willie, his own songs, that he

0:39.8

recorded for RCA Records with producer Chet Atkins. But hardcore Willie Nerds will also know

0:45.3

it from his 1961 demo for the Pampor Music Publishing Company, and hardcore Casey Nerds will

0:51.4

know it from the duet she and Willie did on it for her great 2015 album

0:56.0

pageant material. It prompts her to open up on what she calls real-ass country music,

1:02.0

the lucky joint, Willie gave her on the bus one night, and that scary, surreal night she sang Rainbow

1:08.0

Connection with Willie at the CMAs a few years back.

1:15.6

And when she also does the most spot-on Owen Wilson impression that you're going to hear all year.

1:21.1

But one word of caution, Casey throws around enough F-bombs to make Steve Earle shudder.

1:23.3

Listener discretion is advised.

1:24.7

Let's do it.

1:26.8

Hey, it's hard.

1:36.3

Look around you. Look down the bar from you at the faces that you see.

1:50.1

Are you sure this is where you want to be? then the place to start is what's so great about the willie song are you sure you will be hard pressed to find a more real ass song than willie nelson

2:00.7

well willie nelson and buddyons is, are you sure this is

2:04.7

where you want to be? I remember when I heard it, I thought, holy shit, this is so blunt and so

2:10.5

to the point and so simple and I just fell in love with it. Yeah, and it's a short story. You know,

2:16.7

it's, you have no idea what went wrong in this relationship, but Willie is sitting in a bar

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