Welcome to Josh versus Logan.

JVL for short.

It's probably what we're going to refer to it on all the platforms and stuff like that.

But this is the show where we go at it about things that are very important to us.

So today, only the most important.

Today, we're going to have it out.

We're going to have a knock down, drag out, fight.

No quarter given, no mercy shown off the topic of irons versus steamers.

Because me, I'm a steamer. Like I roll versus steamers because me i'm a i'm a steamer like i like i roll

with steamers steamers are better they're superior we've moved on okay we okay hold that real quick

yeah some lines need to be drawn here does the intro count as part of like because now you're

kind of launched into the argument.

No, no. I'm not launching in the argument. I'm just telling the truth. It's a real backhand. It's a real backhanded way. It's a real backhanded way to get a point in to get a little punch in.

That's a dirty shot before we actually start, before we actually start the episode. So go ahead. Oh,

you want to start?

Okay.

I would love for you to,

I would love for you to start first with opening arguments because you feel so pressed

about irons being trash that you,

that you want to.

I see what you did there using same pressed.

I see what you did there.

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