Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home with me Alan Tollust.

With Parliament now into its summer recess, following Labor's first year in office,

we're going to spend the next few weeks assessing how the government's performing in a number of key

areas with the help of some experts in the field and those with experience facing the same problems

staring back at Kirsteimrunner's cabinet.

We're going to start this week with the subject of social mobility and that most key of all

questions we ask of those in power. Have we made our lives better and have those barriers

of success been removed? To discuss if labour are on the right track so far and our own party's

record in this area and delight to be joined by

someone who has made social mobility the focal point of a political and business career, the former

Conservative Education Secretary, Justine Greening. And I started by asking her what we mean when

we talk about social ability in relation to the UK in 2025. So I'm going to start justine by asking you to, I guess, define what is social mobility,

kind of in a meaningful way. What does it mean when we talk about social ability in the UK in

2025? It basically means that your chance to succeed in life and progress is not defined by your

start and circumstances.

So whether you call it breaking down barriers, equality of opportunity, social mobility,

basically it means having a level playing field when it comes to access to opportunity.

And I don't just mean being able to get an opportunity and it be there.

I mean being prepared and educated and have your talent developed to be able to get that

opportunity.

So it's the two halves that that talent spread evenly.

Opportunity is not having a level playing field on both of those for the first time

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