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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Justin Michael Williams, Shelly Tygielski, and Mario Van Peebles: How We Ended Racism

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2023

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

The end of racism—really? When your eyes stop rolling, tune in to this podcast to hear why it's actually possible—in our lifetimes—to free our society from systemic racial oppression and  injustice. In part one of this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon speaks with Justin Michael Williams and Shelly Tygielski about their new book, How We Ended Racism. In part two, filmmaker and activist Mario Van Peebles joins the conversation to share his own hope-giving perspective.  This stirring and uplifting podcast explores the five assumptions that perpetuate racism; the eight pillars of possibility; the pledge to help end racism; how our inner work relates to the outer change that we're working toward; assertion versus assessment, and learning to recognize our own biases; shadow work and confronting the concept of supremacy; taking action where we're standing right now; "loving with bigger arms"; crossing the divide within families; the metaphor of the inherited house; the practice of calling forward; intraconnection; the link between exposure and empathy; the SUSS process: State, Uncover, Synergize, and Select; and more. Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Hello, friends. My name's Tammy Simon and I'm the founder of Sounds True, and I want to welcome you to the Sounds True podcast, Insights at the Edge.

0:12.0

I also want to take a moment to introduce you to Sounds True's new membership community and digital platform.

0:18.9

It's called Sounds True One.

0:21.7

Sounds True One features original, premium, transformational docu series, community events,

0:29.0

classes to start your day and relax in the evening, special weekly live shows,

0:36.0

including a video version of Insights at the Edge with an after-show

0:41.3

community question and answer session with featured guests. I hope you'll come join us, explore,

0:48.6

come have fun with us, and connect with others. You can learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

0:56.4

I also want to take a moment and introduce you to the Sounds True Foundation,

1:00.4

our nonprofit that creates equitable access to transformational tools and teachings.

1:08.6

You can learn more at SoundsTrueFoundation.org. And in advance, thank you for your support.

1:15.6

Welcome, friends, to this special two-part Insights at the Edge series. We're going to be celebrating and talking about some of the very challenging, bold, and visionary ideas that

1:31.4

are presented in a new book.

1:33.4

It's called How We Ended Racism, Realizing a New Possibility in One Generation.

1:41.5

And I have here with me the co-authors of the book, Justin Michael Williams and

1:46.4

Shelley Tegelsky. In the first part, I'll be talking to Justin and Shelley about some of the

1:52.7

main themes in the book. And then in the second part, we're going to be having a very special

1:59.0

guest, writer, director, producer, activist Mario Van Peebles.

2:05.3

So this is an exciting two-part series. I don't know two parts of insights at the edge very often.

2:10.8

But in this case, I think it is, it's not just warranted. It's a flowering of my heart in support of the work that

2:22.7

Shelley and Justin are doing and the way that they're putting themselves out there in such a

2:28.8

bold and forward way. Let me tell you a little bit more about Justin and Shelley. Justin Michael Williams is an award-winning

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