Welcome to the Behind the Shoehl podcast. As always my name's James Gearing and this week it is my

absolute honor to welcome on the show, veteran lawyer, founder of the California Innocence

Project and author of the new book, You Might Go to Prison Even Though You're Innocent, Justin Brooks.

Now we had an incredible conversation and really unpacked each of the elements that lead to so many of these wrongful convictions that destroy people's lives.

From the initial investigation from law enforcement, the huge margin of error when it comes to lawyers in the legal system, racial bias, plea bargains, the psychology of interrogation, and so much more.

Now, before we get to this incredible and much-needed conversation, as I say every week,

please just take a moment, go to whichever app you listen to this on, subscribe to the show,

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them. So with that being said, I introduce to you Justin Brooks. Enjoy. Well, Justin, I want to start by saying thank you so much for taking the time and coming on the Behind the Shield podcast today.

My pleasure.

Now, interesting question.

You're obviously from the States, but where on planet Earth be finding you today?

I am right in the middle of the United Kingdom in Derbyshire on the

edge of the Peak District. So before we even get into your timeline, how have you found yourself

having a home in the UK? My mom is from Liverpool, my dad's from Australia, and my wife is from Darby.

So I've been back and forth to the United Kingdom most of my life.

And several years ago, I decided to buy this little 240-year-old stone cottage as my escape

from reality. And so I come here when I need my fix. It's actually

where I wrote my new book. I wrote the whole book sitting in this cottage. And it's an

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