"Justice or Annihilation" w/ Sharif Abdel Kouddous
Makdisi Street
Bayt al Makdisi
4.9 • 643 Ratings
🗓️ 10 February 2026
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
The brothers welcome Drop Site News journalist Sharif Abdel Kouddous to the show to discuss the latest developments in Gaza, as, despite a nominal "ceasefire," Israel's genocide grinds on, and as, meanwhile, dystopian plans to remake Gaza put forward by the likes of Jared Kushner are slowly put into place, which would see Palestinians forced into biometrically controlled concentration camps as parts of the territory are plundered or developed for the enrichment of foreign investors. The conversation shows that we are entering a pivotal moment, in which either Israel's worst and most dystopian desires will be fulfilled or they will break apart—in Gaza.
Date of recording: January 27, 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Is this genocide in Gaza the beginning of the end of Zionism? |
| 0:06.1 | Or is it the beginning of the annihilation of Palestine and the Palestinian people as a people? |
| 0:14.5 | I don't know what the answer is to that. |
| 0:17.2 | As Tarbakhoni said recently, we're at a point now where there's no kind of middle ground. |
| 0:22.2 | There's no going back to October 6th. |
| 0:24.5 | There is no kind of like two-state solution. |
| 0:28.4 | There's no normalizing this. |
| 0:29.8 | There is only justice and liberation or annihilation. |
| 0:34.5 | Those are kind of like the two options at this point. |
| 0:40.1 | Welcome everybody to another episode of the Magdasi Street podcast. |
| 0:44.2 | Sari Osama and Karim are here with you and we're happy to welcome our |
| 0:49.5 | friend and colleague Sharif Abduh Kudus to the show. Sharif is a journalist and the Middle East and North |
| 0:55.9 | Africa editor at Dropsite News. He's reported from across the Arab world, including Egypt, Palestine, |
| 1:01.7 | Syria, Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Bahrain, and Algeria, as well as from across the U.S. and internationally. |
| 1:09.4 | He received a Peabody Award for his Gaza documentary The Night Won't End, |
| 1:13.8 | a George Polk Award for his investigation into the killing of Palestinian journalist Shereen Abu Ackli, |
| 1:19.8 | an Emmy Award for his coverage of the Trump administration's Muslim travel ban, |
| 1:24.6 | and an Izzy Award for his coverage of the 2011 Egyptian Revolution. |
| 1:29.2 | Sharif is also producer of the Palestine Festival of Literature, Palfest. |
| 1:33.6 | And he's based in and between New York and Cairo. |
| 1:37.6 | So Sharif, welcome to the show. |
| 1:39.8 | Ahana, it's great to have you here. |
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