I was going to say yeah, I think when you try to break things, when I try to break

down issues yeah, I try to think short medium and long term, isn't it?

So I'm thinking in the short term, like, there's no harm putting your arm around the person.

Do you get up to say?

Also what that does, yeah, I feel like a lot of the time when you do that when someone knows what

they're doing is kind of mad. Yeah. Or has an inclination that what they're doing is kind of mad, it actually endears them more towards you. And because of that, any correction then, like, what they say is, they say, they say, they say, they say everyone, everyone that gives like good feedback, essentially you always start off with like something positive and then you say the constructive stuff. You get up to say, I think it's the same sort of thing. That's what the therapist do, though. That's what you're saying that you disagree with.

No, no, no, but that's not what I'm saying,

because I'm saying in a very short term,

the graduation is happening or has it already happened? Yeah. I'm saying, uh, it's already happened. I'm saying in the lead up to the graduation. There's still the issues of like the pathological lying and things like that.

That's like a...

So I was going to say if it

was leading up to the graduation put your arm around a try and make her involved in the day after

the day you got to address this like on a serious note you get yeah that's a momentous thing that's

going to pass and then you no longer have that opportunity do you get yeah exactly I was going to say

I agree with your point but I think that seven people's probably too many. But I feel like usually within every group, there's always like pairs. So I feel like if she has someone that she's naturally closer to, that she knows that she can let her guard down, because I can imagine myself, like, even if I agree with what you're saying, the fact that six of you have come to come and tell me, I'm going to defend myself. And I know that naturally, like, I just find,

I'll find myself.

Yeah, like that.

Whereas I feel like if Tammy came to me

or if Beatrice came to me,

like one and one,

like, and you don't have to be like, us as a group have decided. Like, it just, it can just be like a, I've noticed this like, yeah rather than we yeah rather than we

yeah you know what's something

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