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I did Alex Cooper's podcast.

Now, I met her twice because I did her tour, and I was impressed by her

backstage work ethic on something as seemingly superficial as social media, but it's literally

a massive part of her business. It promotes her podcast, and she's very good at it, and she's a

regular poster, and it's part of her business model.

And so backstage on one of those shows, we don't have the exact same process,

but since day one of doing this, I've never seen someone more like-minded than myself

in social media posted in the way they approach it.

Not all day, every day, but in the moment of the creativity, of the execution, of the

perfectionism, of how it's going to be done, of the, she's really driving the way it's

going down for the most part.

But it was game, Met Game, and I recognized her gangster, and I liked it.

Okay. That said, watching clips on the internet, she's a podcaster. She's done very well for herself.

She must be business savvy. She seems to have a good work ethic. She's thorough. She's literally

interviewed Michelle Obama. She's interviewed Kim Kardashian and

Charlize Theron and many, many people. But so have other people. And I've been interviewed by

many of these other people that are like the shows, the talk shows, the podcast, et cetera.

And in many cases, the interview is good. Sometimes it's fun. Sometimes it's light and bright.

Sometimes it's popcorn. Sometimes it's junk food. And often it's enjoyable. I could talk to a wall.

But in the case of Alex Cooper, in watching just clips on social media, which is all I had seen,

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