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Just B with Bethenny Frankel

Just B Dating: You Gotta Stay Hopeful

Just B with Bethenny Frankel

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Business

4.410.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

It's rough out there. But stay hopeful.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:04.2

I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight...

0:08.0

And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke.

0:12.6

A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old.

0:16.0

And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.

0:20.5

How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

0:27.6

Listen to heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in So in thinking about dating and relationships, I've been thinking about what hope means.

0:52.4

And because I'm a double down, because I'm a gambler,

0:54.9

because I'm a calculated risk taker, I always feel more alive when I'm in the game. Like,

1:03.6

if I knew that I had eight people coming in every day to get a massage and I knew exactly how much

1:08.2

money the massages would cost and exactly how much I would make,

1:11.2

I would feel a little bit hopeless because it would be a cap. I would know exactly what it could be,

1:15.9

and that would be slightly soul crushing for me. I would rather be paid less, but know that I have

1:20.7

tremendous upside, which is why the Bethany Clause was so liberating and exhilarating and why I took shitty pay the first season

1:29.8

of Housewives because I took the shitty pay because I was betting on myself and knew,

1:34.3

yes, I'll take the shitty pay, but you can't ever take a piece of anything that I build because I was

1:38.0

betting on the back end. And I'm a gambler in that way. I grew up at the racetrack. I'm a gambler.

1:43.4

And when I've been in relationships

1:45.2

that are solid and peaceful and good, but not inspiring and I just feel like I'm kind of selling

1:52.4

myself a little bit short. I'm a little bit like dead. I'm a little bit depressed. I'm a little

1:58.1

bit staying out of fear and security and logical reasons. And many people

2:04.3

are in relationships for different reasons. And there are many people who need to be there for security

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