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Nice to meet you.

Very nice to meet you.

I'm a pretty big fan.

Oh, thank you.

You're like the holy grill of women entrepreneurs.

Oh, well, I appreciate that.

Thank you so much.

So I found you on social media and you do sort of like these therapy snippets on relationships in the car.

And you have a practice. You have patients? I do. I have clients. So I'm a relationship coach. And I've been running my practice now for about four years.

So it's been a real blessing and a real joy. I was in academia before that. I was the director of a clinical psychology program

at a university. And so I did that for a number of years and taught in psychology.

Okay. So my question is one of the most intellectual reasons I think that a person shouldn't have

sex too early, which we've all done, is because it could make you so deeply insecure to blame, like, let's say that you have this thing right here. Like, okay, I've been out with someone and on the first night, we're going to do this and we're going to do that. And oh, my God, you're this and you're that. And, like, I'm into it and I'm believing'm believing it at the same time I'm an investigative reporter in my own mind not trusting any of it I don't believe it there's no way that you don't feel this way just with me and you didn't feel this way of someone two nights ago and it could be possible we have felt ways that we've never felt before but it could so now if you sleep with someone and they don't call you or interact or text in the way that you want them to, you're blaming it on the sex. You don't, and it might not be the sex. I've found that the guy that I don't have sex with does this also. But if I had sex, I'd be blaming all of it on sex. So it's like a recipe. You added cilantro, you added garlic, you added all these things.

You don't know what it was. You don't know what the allergen was because you did all the things.

So the only way to find out what you're really allergic to or what the problem is is like sort of they call it like an elimination diet.

You know what I mean? Or elimination add on.

Yes. Or add one ingredient at a time. And that's why it's the same thing as making your own money.

I'm not saying you have to make your own money in life or use it. It just sets you up for success.

Not having sex. It's not slut shaming. It's saying, we want to be able to assign what ingredients are the

problem, and you need to go slow so you can see what's going on with a new person.

I agree, totally. And there's hormonal things that happen to both male and female that are

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