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The Playbook Podcast

June 22, 2023: Biden's Modi test

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Government, Politics

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2023

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

As President Joe Biden fetes Indian PM Narendra Modi in D.C., he faces uncomfortable questions about his rhetoric putting idealism at the heart of American foreign policy — and what happens when that approach runs head-on into the buzzsaw of realpolitik. Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza talks with national security reporter Alex Ward.

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0:00.0

Good morning, everyone. I'm Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza. It's Thursday, June 22nd. Here are two big

0:07.7

things that will be driving the day. The first, go over to Politico.com and check out Jonathan

0:13.0

Martin's latest column. It's one everyone we'll be talking about today. It's about Barack Obama

0:18.1

holding a series of conversations with young up-and-coming House members.

0:24.0

That is the big scoop in the piece, but J-Mart takes you behind the scenes of what this means for the Biden-Obama relationship.

0:33.4

It gets into a little bit of the history of that very complicated relationship.

0:37.0

Check out that piece.

0:38.6

The second thing driving the day will be the state dinner for Indian Prime Minister,

0:44.7

Narendra Modi. We want to get into a little bit more detail about what Modi's visit to Washington

0:51.2

means for Joe Biden's foreign policy. And to do that, I'm going to

0:55.7

bring in National Security Reporter, Alex Ward. Let's start with the big picture. What does the

1:03.2

United States and Joe Biden hope to get out of this meeting? And what does Modi hope to get out

1:08.7

of this meeting? So Biden at the 30,000 foot level is hoping to get a bulwark against China, right?

1:17.0

India is almost as of very shortly ago, the world's most populous country.

1:22.7

It is the world's largest democracy.

1:24.7

It is a country that is only growing in economic and military

1:29.6

strength. And so it is sort of the prize on the geopolitical chess board. If you are the United

1:35.9

States and you're looking to counter China, it's hard to do so without India. So by giving a state

1:41.1

visit to Modi, you are looking to not only make sort of economic and military

1:47.7

agreements, which they will do, and there will be some, including along the lines of, you know,

1:53.6

engine production, ship repair. But really, it is about a strengthening of the Washington New Delhi relationship to the

2:04.7

point that in Washington's hopes, India will be more friendly towards the United States than it would

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