This is a rare, with your past, with your host, Jean Steinberg and David Beadig.

This is a rare, rare kind of episode for the Paracast.

Rare because most of the time I never actually see the guests.

I never see David.

Of course, David is pleased with the fact that I never see him because that means he does not have to see me.

The only time that I've done an episode of the Powercast participated in one where I saw the guest was when I did the first interview with Nicholas Redfern at the crash retrieval conference in Las Vegas.

But this is the second time we have a guest in the main master studio,

drinking his bottle of some unnamed liquid. We have John Burroughs, and he was an airman

at the 81st tactical fighter wing stationed at Bentwaters. And of course, we know what happened

there. So we also have we know what happened there.

So we also have Peter Robbins, who will provide a lot of information, listen, and ask the questions that David and I cannot think to answer.

Or ask.

Or, as the case would be.

Depends on what you want to.

All right.

Consider.

Anyway, John Burroughs, let's take this back through time.

Back to 1980.

What were you doing and when and what happened to you?

Well, we came on duty at 11 o'clock on Christmas night, and I was assigned to RAF Woodbridge at night on a police unit.

I was law enforcement, and it was approximately 1.30 to 2 o'clock in the morning when the on-site

supervisor, which was Sergeant Stephens, was on patrol, and I was in a different vehicle.

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